Pandemics and Politics Continued

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  1. daedal2207: We seem to be in another installment/chapter of “The Twighlight Zone.” It could probably be an entertaining dystopian tale (if that were an audience’s predilection) but for the fact that we are actually living the experience. In your post “Pandemics and Politics Continued,” the facts are indisputable. All continents have been touched by COVID-19, and with the availability of today’s communications, it is clearly self-evident that not only is a national effort required, but a global cooperation essential. Now is not the time to celebrate ignorance. And, yet …

    daedal2207: “ MOM aka POTUS displayed his usual brilliance in embracing a black Texan physician, originally from Nigeria, who claims a cure, and who is probably an ambulatory psychotic as legitimate.”

    “Ambulatory psychotic” is a respectful, clinical description. We are dealing with a nut case, surrounded by questionable “practitioners” whose hospital affiliations cannot be verified.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/07/in-viral-video-doctor-falsely-touts-hydroxychloroquine-as-covid-19-cure/

    https://archive.fo/G7wtb

    “ Before Trump and his supporters embrace Immanuel’s medical expertise, though, they should consider other medical claims Immanuel has made—including those about alien DNA and the physical effects of having sex with witches and demons in your dreams. Immanuel, a pediatrician and a religious minister, has a history of making bizarre claims about medical topics and other issues. She has often claimed that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are in fact caused by people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches. She alleges alien DNA is currently used in medical treatments, and that scientists are cooking up a vaccine to prevent people from being religious. And, despite appearing in Washington, D.C. to lobby Congress on Monday, she has said that the government is run in part not by humans but by ‘reptilians’ and other aliens.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/stella-immanuel-trumps-new-covid-doctor-believes-in-alien-dna-demon-sperm-and-hydroxychloroquine

    We continue to be the victims … yes, victims … of a sociopath who has been a failure all his life and thrives in chaos and hate. He must be writhing at the thought that he will NEVER be loved and admired as leaders such as the one whose funeral we witnessed yesterday. At this time, I would like to turn the floor to our opposing point of view … the honorable DS who on 10 April 2920 established his standards/criteria, and suggest a validation of them. Recognizing that DS is “very secure in the philosophic principles and care little about what others FEEL,” may we request that he specifically address his rules (supporting footnotes would be appreciated):

    1. … the best goal to pursue is that of least human suffering, …
    2. … my methods which are reliant on the laws of physics, facts and logic …
    3. … It is interestingly fun and fascinating to see so many brilliant minds at ease labeling Donald Trump as an evil, incompetent, destroyer of humanity’s future when there is (particularly in the last three years) so much MEASURABLE AND LOGICAL EVIDENCE that should lead objective minds to accept the opposite as a more likely truth.

    (Full text listed below.)

    Don H Spencer
    10 Apr 2020 at 1:44 pm

    … My approach is less moralistic than that of Frum (and many others). For me it is what most likely works to better the human future, rather than, who or what is morally good or superior. This requires me to keep my arguments first of all rooted in fundamental philosophic principles as to what is the most probable truth of things, and then, from that base trying to logically examine what actions will most likely work to most efficiently and safely advance us toward worthy goals. As regards social structure and politics, I figure that the best goal to pursue is that of least human suffering, which includes maximizing the habitats needed for human success. SB apparently thinks this approach is smug and maybe pompous. It is true that I am very secure in the philosophic principles and care little about what others FEEL about my methods which are reliant on the laws of physics, facts and logic (but not who or what is evil or good). But I do care a lot about how others may THOUGHTFULLY provide empirical and logical evidence that allows me to correct possible misconceptions and thus become more accurate in my judgments. It is interestingly fun and fascinating to see so many brilliant minds at ease labeling Donald Trump as an evil, incompetent, destroyer of humanity’s future when there is (particularly in the last three years) so much MEASURABLE AND LOGICAL EVIDENCE that should lead objective minds to accept the opposite as a more likely truth. What is apparently a widespread and major derangement is a wondrous thing to behold and leads to a great many intriguing questions speculating as to what it means to be human.

  2. daedal2207: We seem to be in another installment/chapter of “The Twighlight Zone.” It could probably be an entertaining dystopian tale (if that were an audience’s predilection) but for the fact that we are actually living the experience. In your post “Pandemics and Politics Continued,” the facts are indisputable. All continents have been touched by COVID-19, and with the availability of today’s communications, it is clearly self-evident that not only is a national effort required, but a global cooperation essential. Now is not the time to celebrate ignorance. And, yet …

    daedal2207: “ MOM aka POTUS displayed his usual brilliance in embracing a black Texan physician, originally from Nigeria, who claims a cure, and who is probably an ambulatory psychotic as legitimate.”

    “Ambulatory psychotic” is a respectful, clinical description. We are dealing with a nut case, surrounded by questionable “practitioners” whose hospital affiliations cannot be verified.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/07/in-viral-video-doctor-falsely-touts-hydroxychloroquine-as-covid-19-cure/

    https://archive.fo/G7wtb

    “ Before Trump and his supporters embrace Immanuel’s medical expertise, though, they should consider other medical claims Immanuel has made—including those about alien DNA and the physical effects of having sex with witches and demons in your dreams. Immanuel, a pediatrician and a religious minister, has a history of making bizarre claims about medical topics and other issues. She has often claimed that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are in fact caused by people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches. She alleges alien DNA is currently used in medical treatments, and that scientists are cooking up a vaccine to prevent people from being religious. And, despite appearing in Washington, D.C. to lobby Congress on Monday, she has said that the government is run in part not by humans but by ‘reptilians’ and other aliens.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/stella-immanuel-trumps-new-covid-doctor-believes-in-alien-dna-demon-sperm-and-hydroxychloroquine

    We continue to be the victims … yes, victims … of a sociopath who has been a failure all his life and thrives in chaos and hate. He must be writhing at the thought that he will NEVER be loved and admired as leaders such as the one whose funeral we witnessed yesterday. At this time, I would like to turn the floor to our opposing point of view … the honorable DS who on 10 April 2920 established his standards/criteria, and suggest a validation of them. Recognizing that DS is “very secure in the philosophic principles and care little about what others FEEL,” may we request that he specifically address his rules (backing footnotes would be appreciated):

    1. … the best goal to pursue is that of least human suffering, …
    2. … my methods which are reliant on the laws of physics, facts and logic …
    3. … It is interestingly fun and fascinating to see so many brilliant minds at ease labeling Donald Trump as an evil, incompetent, destroyer of humanity’s future when there is (particularly in the last three years) so much MEASURABLE AND LOGICAL EVIDENCE that should lead objective minds to accept the opposite as a more likely truth.

    (Full text listed below.)

    Don H Spencer
    10 Apr 2020 at 1:44 pm

    “… My approach is less moralistic than that of Frum (and many others). For me it is what most likely works to better the human future, rather than, who or what is morally good or superior. This requires me to keep my arguments first of all rooted in fundamental philosophic principles as to what is the most probable truth of things, and then, from that base trying to logically examine what actions will most likely work to most efficiently and safely advance us toward worthy goals. As regards social structure and politics, I figure that the best goal to pursue is that of least human suffering, which includes maximizing the habitats needed for human success. SB apparently thinks this approach is smug and maybe pompous. It is true that I am very secure in the philosophic principles and care little about what others FEEL about my methods which are reliant on the laws of physics, facts and logic (but not who or what is evil or good). But I do care a lot about how others may THOUGHTFULLY provide empirical and logical evidence that allows me to correct possible misconceptions and thus become more accurate in my judgments. It is interestingly fun and fascinating to see so many brilliant minds at ease labeling Donald Trump as an evil, incompetent, destroyer of humanity’s future when there is (particularly in the last three years) so much MEASURABLE AND LOGICAL EVIDENCE that should lead objective minds to accept the opposite as a more likely truth. What is apparently a widespread and major derangement is a wondrous thing to behold and leads to a great many intriguing questions speculating as to what it means to be human.“

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